Nevis1
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 11:48:46 AM
I have numerous email clients that I use, depending on the OS and or the device that I am using. My mainstay is Eudora, which I started using in 1992, and consider it still to be a great client.
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herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2012 8:19:32 PM
TV is good for bloopers. Watched Scanners long ago, and of course right when the guy's head exploded they cut to commercials to stick to the reduced violence content rules..... but cut directly into a pizza commercial.
Kaboom! Then there's a shot of a steaming pizza... put my appetite for pizza off for a month....
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2012 5:10:03 PM
Hello Herbie. I appreciate your response and, thus far, haven't been burned at the stake. My take on it is in your words, "Yeah it works" and my words, "most importantly makes my daughter with a 3 month old baby happy." Sometimes decisions must be made from the heart rather than the head :-).
Your comment about the terminal illness notification with "bouncing kitties and smiley faces" made my day and strangely brought up an old memory. When I was in the US Army, Armed Forces Radio & Television (AFRAT) showed a series called "Twelve O'Clock High" about an actual B-17 bomber group headed by a General Savage who actually flew missions over Germany. AFRAT was known for blunders such as you mentioned and I remember a scene where a pilot's best friend died. Right in the middle of this highly emotional scene came "carnival music". We had guys rolling on the floor in laughter. Yes, that can happen with Incredimail, but I am careful to use a plain white background for some mail. I only have one friend who complains about not receiving it "correctly", but he also has trouble with CNN email (or is it e-mail -- nevermind) and other HTML formatted items. He is using Windows XP and is the only one with a problem regarding my emails. He has a mindset never to update programs or utilities, so it is his loss. You just cannot convince some people -- Roger That, Herbie!
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herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2012 7:17:40 PM
The tech for a local Indian band talked them into IncrediMail. I joke that one day someone will get a message from their health centre:
We're sorry to inform you the biopsy was malignant. You have three weeks to live.
.... and there will be bouncing kitties and smiley faces along the bottom.
I caught the local Chamber of Commerce using it and just about slapped the manager's head off in front of the Board of Directors. "You want to PRETEND you're a professional organization, or do you want to BE a professional organization?"
Yeah it works. It's a perversion of OutHouse Express, I don't use that one either.
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2012 8:46:30 AM
Hello scoutmaster. I was thinking of you while having coffee and thought I'd save you some typing as your response is predictable.
You would say, "Incredimail is garbage!" Am I right? Just kidding :-) .
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2012 6:40:02 AM
Good Morning Herbie. I could escape the gauntlet of ridicule and shame, possibly worse than Microsoft Vista, but I do use Indredimail as my standard email client, although I also have Windows Live Mail and Thunderbird. Why? Simply because it works, is versatile and, most importantly makes my daughter with a 3 month old baby happy (funny what parents will do). They have all sorts of cute baby icons and really neat backgrounds.
You said, "I'm so happy no one has yet told us how they use Incredimail. It proves gas buddy users are over 13." I guess I have to answer that I'm like Peter Pan and never grew up as I really like that program. Yes, on serious emails, I do eliminate the graphics, but if it makes my daughter happy with the baby stuff, I am happy.
The program has functioned well and with the backup option and the "Gold Gallery" it only cost me $25. Yes, I know other mail clients are free.
What do you have against Incredimail Herbie?
[Edited by: Titanic1985 at 6/24/2012 9:40:21 AM EST]
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herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 9:49:40 PM
Just simplify for clarity.
It is called email.
Attachments of 25 and 100 MB are PARCEL POST. Email was never designed to carry them, even if you use gmail or hotmail and send one, somebody you know is going to be using an actual mail client and it will be all screwed up until they find a way to delete your oversized attachment.
If Gramma lives on the farm and still has dialup, you just messed up her Outlook in such a way she'll never figure out what's wrong.
Use something like Dropbox and post a link.
edit: and I'm so happy no one has yet told us how they use Incredimail. It proves gas buddy users are over 13
[Edited by: herbiepopnecker at 6/24/2012 12:51:36 AM EST]
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aoklman
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 3:51:32 AM
Yes, I think there is a limit, but I've never reached it (it has been increased through the years from a somewhat small storage space to something like 5 GB, but I may be way off on that. I do know they claim gmail and yahoo only allow a 25 MB single attachment to hotmail 100 MB attachment). Anyway I regularly delete from hotmail anything I don't need to save and occasionally delete saved e-mails as they get too old.
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MEB
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 9:31:12 PM
Mailcity--1998
Lycos--1998
Altavista--1999
I think lycos bought out mailcity in 1999.
Lycos in 2004 decided to wipe the slate CLEAN.
Been with Yahoo since 2004.
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herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 6:58:47 PM
OutHouse is semi-decent once it's configured. 2003 - 2010 will not 'change'. If you make a mistake on setup, using the change account feature does not work. You have to delete the account and re-create it properly or it will not ever work.
The automatic feature on Outhouse, Windows Mail and Thunderbird all try to install IMAP as a default. Your ISP's email is not Hotmail or Gmail with HUGE server space, it will muck up in the end.
Configure your mail as POP, then it will take the messages off the server and store them on your computer. If you use several computers,iPads, Blackberrys set all but your main computer to leave messages on server under the advanced settings.
Then you might add some Antivirus program that goes in and alters your settings without you knowing. Avast now does this (turns on SSL) and Norton was notorious for changing your mail server to theirs.
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mandamoee
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 6:32:57 PM
I use Yahoo Mail & Windows Live.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 11:52:19 AM
OK so you leave your mail on the server! Got it! But aren't you allotted a certain amount of space on the server that could fill up and prevent you from getting your e-mail?
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MOEFL1981
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 11:45:56 AM
AOL and GoDaddy for business.
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Tazz57
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 11:04:58 AM
I use Yahoo for personal and Thunderbird for my Wife & I's email can't stand outlook exp piece of junk used it till 2003 with nothing but crashes & other problems since using Mozilla's Thunderbird email not 1 problem as of yet i use them on a "03"windows xp sp3 desktop & 9/2011 or "2012" windows 7 laptop both PC's. I am also a Mozilla affiliate Firefox
Thunderbird
[Edited by: Tazz57 at 6/21/2012 2:11:18 PM EST]
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noblegiant
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 5:38:52 AM
Dreammail
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aoklman
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 5:32:17 AM
No, If I were using a PC other than my own, I would not be using outlook. I would just log onto hotmail or yahoo and use their horrid ad riddled interface (if I really needed to check an e-mail when my own PC was not available).
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 5:21:16 AM
So you are opening the mail you leave on your web service with Outlook from a computer other than yours? And you are configuring Outlook on this other computer to do this how?
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aoklman
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 4:54:27 AM
Did I say that? Noooo! I said the original e-mail was left intact on the web service, and if need be I could log on from a computer other than my own and view my e-mails (I simply launch/open/run outlook on my own PC - not log on to outlook).
And as for outlook express being trash, I'm not trying to rule the world with it, I just use it to store and view e-mails (and it does a great job for that (IMO)).
[Edited by: aoklman at 6/21/2012 8:01:49 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 3:48:32 AM
Outlook Express???? Total trash! And as usual, herbie is right on the money. Doing what you are doing could create real problems for others and that's not nice.
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herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 7:57:50 PM
You don't use Outlook to log on from someone else's computer. That's a no-no. You're reconfiguring their setup without their permission, you're leaving traces on the other person's computer and you're doing it the hard way.
Use your webmail from someone else's computer. That means look at it with your browser. hotmail.com in the address bar. Log in. Don't save your password. Log out when you're done.
I run into people daily trying to "install" hotmail or MSN on Internet cafe computers.
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aoklman
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 5:02:17 AM
T85, My post was more of a response to let camp know that choosing to download e-mail in no way hinders one from viewing it on various PCs. I don,t really use sync, I simply set outlook to not delete the original after downloading so when I run outlook eXPress on my XP desktop it also downloads all e-mails (giving me a copy on both PCs, plus the original is still on hotmail/yahoo until I decide to delete them).
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 4:46:31 AM
Hello Camp. I like your response to email vs e-mail - extremely professional and well documented :-) . I guess my mind must think like your's (oh, no) or oaklmam's spell checker in that I spelled it e-mail in my post to AFOS. Some say tomato and some say tomoto. I'm getting as fruity as you! Time to send all of us along with tower desktops to the recycle bin!
Hello brendle1. Thanks for the Hotmail update. I never really knew why MS deleted an inactive account (maybe a storage capacity issue). Thanks.
Hello oaklman. I used to do the sync thing, but then I would have to clean up the ISP's copy of email that stayed there. Now, I just store it on my machine since I really don't require remote mail access.
[Edited by: Titanic1985 at 6/20/2012 7:48:13 AM EST]
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aoklman
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:27:58 AM
Camp, ever hear of sync? I can look at my email or e-mail on any of my PCs and if you configure outlook/express (as I have) the original stays on the web site so I could, if need be, log on from someone elses PC and view my email/e-mail as well.
Just noticed something, when I did a spell check, it didn't like email, but did not flag e-mail (I guess computers are against the un-hyphened spelling as well).
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1brendle
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 6:00:39 PM
I have MSN (hotmail)e-mail as the main one. Also hotmail no longer deletes account if not checked for a month.
Yahoo.for sites that need want address but I'm not really subscribing to. lot of spam with yahoo
Google for job searches. Don't like the way google is set up to handle you mail
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2012 2:27:31 PM
T85: It's "email," but I refuse to go along. Would you say tshirt instead of T-shirt? Or oring instead of O-ring? Or aframe instead of A-frame? So I say, pbbbbbt!
Grizzly: If you have your E-mail on your PC, then you can't see it from any other PC (without remote software installed). I can see my mail from any 'Net-connected PC without having to install anything. I also store a lot of stuff in drafts and attachments thereto that I can access from anywhere.
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 7:11:24 AM
Hello oaklman. Your comments reflect mine in many ways. I really don't like those ads on Yahoo, AOL, etc. I did have one comment about your Hotmail account, however. I'm sure you know it, but some of my friends did not. If you don't use the account (correct me if this has changed) for one month, MS shuts it down. I've also heard in this day of scams that having a hotmail account makes you and/or your email suspect and many just delete it.
I must give you credit for stating, "my XP machine (last OS MS included outlook express)" for being diplomatic. I tried to say that to AFOS without mentioning a certain MS operating system much hated by some GBs. Your work-around was great! Take care :-) .
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2012 7:02:07 AM
Hello AFOS. You mentioned the colored backgrounds and the use of ink by the recipients. I've asked each person I send these "fancy" emails to, if that were an issue and each said they liked it.
Continuing with that thought, it took me almost four years to get my credit union to quit posting monthly statements and other reports in blue text. I told them on a three color cartridge, it depletes the cyan rendering the ink cartridge "empty" even though the other two colors have plenty of ink in then. This is where many programmers don't understand the real world or the impact of what they are doing. I was fortunate to work through the ranks and experience what developers produce. The credit union has now gone to black text. Yes, I know you can over-ride a print job on the local level to print grayscale, but in finances the color red stands out more than () as a negative value.
Thank you for your comment about my new grandson. He is cute and I have truely been blessed :-) .
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PaylessKY
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 9:21:06 PM
For one email address I use excite. My main email I use windows Live. I liked outlook express better, but with Windows 7 thats not a choice.
[Edited by: PaylessKY at 6/17/2012 12:21:58 AM EST]
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AFOS
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 6:13:26 PM
Titanic1985...
I have a friend who once used Incredimail, although she now uses Thunderbird. She did mention backgrounds and other cute things. I know Thunderbird offers various solid color backgrounds and probably with the themes & add ons, which I do not use, much more. I used to send all my emails on a soft blue background until one of my recipients said that's how they printed for her and she was using a lot of colored ink up. Lol (any of the 3 meanings you mentioned would work). As far I can understand what you're describing, Thunderbird does pretty much the same things as Incredimail. The folder system is great to have and was there right from the beginning in Netscape's mail client as I recall. There is a separate utility, Mozbackup, which allows you to back up your entire profile on the media of your choice (it also works for Firefox). I do this for Thunderbird every day or two - you never know. You can use it to move the whole kit and kaboodle to another computer running Thunderbird (or Firefox).
I see the Windows Live Mail item in the start menu but have never opened it.
I did switch to Microsoft Security Essentials on this computer and my main laptop and am very happy.
Yes this PC has been working just fine for a while now.
Congratulations on your new grandfatherhood.
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aoklman
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 8:09:19 AM
I have a hotmail and yahoo email account but HATE the web interface with all the ads, and a simple email of a few lines may have to be scrolled to read the it all because the displaying of the email seems their least important task (while it is the only reason I am there). So I use outlook express on my XP machine (last OS MS included outlook express), and I use MS Office Outlook on any PCs running Vista or newer OS. The email interface through my ISP (Verizon), while some better than the hotmail/yahoo interface, is still less than desirable. So I simply open outlook or outlook express and it downloads all my email to my PC and I can view several paragraphs on a single screen rather than scrolling endlessly with no anoying and distracting ads in the way. And if I want to see a list of all old emails (since I archive rather than delete older emails), I can do that on a single scrollable screen (rather than view 20 or 30 at a time and have to click next page, next page, next page,...).
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 5:25:42 AM
Good Morning AFOS. No, your not "old-fashioned" :-) . For many years from MS Windows 3.1, I used Outlook Express. It wasn't great, but did the job. I now have two choices, my ISP which finally (it took years) upgraded their online mail service to an Outlook look-alike. As of three months ago, I am now a grandfather and stumbled upon a program which, in the past, many have not liked, so I too may be "old-fashioned". It is Incredimail which I've used for over a year with Windows 7 Home Premium. Functionally, it works very well and by paying extra (that is the part I'm not too fond of -- extra for this or that), you get backup capability which really be part of the program and the "Gold Gallery" which provides many different screen/mail backgrounds and animations. My daughter loves getting e-mails from me. Of course, you can still use the dull & boring white background, but I like the many which are available. The other features I like are the "folder system" used to save mail & and the mail group system which saves countless pick & choose individuals rather than groups which you make up yourself (e.g. Family, Technical, etc.). I did purchase Corel's Word Perfect (yes, I go that far back and like it) X-15 which came with Thundrbird (T-bird as you call it). I haven't tried it yet because my daughter and I enjoy the creativity of Incredimail.
You said, "I have no idea where Outlook Express has progressed to". It went to never, never land. MS came up with a series of programs (apps if you want to sound "modern" under what is called Essential Utilities and is downloaded from MS for free. One of the programs is Windows Live Mail, which now replaces Outlook Express. It seemed, for years MS was blamed for including programs such as Internet Exployer (who can forget the legal battle with Netscape) and now, if you want some of such programs, you must manually download them from MS. On another Topic in this forum is their free anti-virus program that is free and well liked by many GBs.
Email (now the declared the official spelling versus e-mail) seems to be evolving. My wife and daughter use Yahoo while my son uses g-mail. If you don't mind advertising these are OK, but I don't like my mail on someone else's computer/server. My ISP is a very small telephone company and their "Outlook" look alike is good if you travel and need mail access (as long as you don't launch Incredimail, it stays there). You can also configure MS Windows Live Mail to access my ISP via a POP 3 SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) connection. There are lots of choices. Interestingly, my kids don't care much for email -- texting is in and email is out. It literally drives me nuts when they send an email with texting (ahem, you did that in your topic using IMHO). My ISP has a cheat sheet to figure out what people are saying, but some like LOL can mean "lots of laughs, laugh out loud & lots of luck". It can drive you crazy.
Hey, AFOS, its good hearing from you. I see your PC is flying again from your posts. Take care :-) .
[Edited by: Titanic1985 at 6/16/2012 8:31:55 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 5:11:47 AM
I use Gmail at home and Outlook at work.
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Grizzly1505
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 4:30:31 AM
Until XP I used Outlook express but with Windows 7 that option is no longer. I decided to give Thunderbird a try and stuck with it.My wife is using Live mail which I absolutely hate.I like my email to be on my computer and not stuck on someone's server.
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AFOS
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2012 4:07:43 AM
OK...by the lack of responses, I didn't realize how "old fashioned" I was. :)
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AFOS
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 9:05:28 PM
It is also FAR faster to use Thunderbird than to use Comcast's webmail.
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AFOS
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:58:51 PM
Comcast offers it. I hate it.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2012 8:30:36 PM
Who needs an E-mail client? Doesn't everyone use Webmail now?
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